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Jelāl immediately replied: “‘But I know not what is in Thy soul’ means in Thy knowledge, in Thy absentness, or, as we seers say, in Thy secrecy. Thus the passage would be paraphrased: Thou knowest what is in my secrecy; but I know not what is in the secret of Thy secrecy; or, as ‘the people of heart’ would put it: Thou knowest what issues from me in the world; but I know not the secret of what issues from Thee in the world to come. It is quite proper to speak of God as ‘a thing;’ for He hath said (Qur’ān vi. 19): ‘What thing is greatest in testimony? Say thou: “God;“’ i.e., God is the greatest thing in testimony; ‘God will be a witness between me and you in the day of the resurrection.’ The signification of the passage ‘Every thing shall perish’ is: every created thing shall perish; not the Creator, i.e., ‘save He.’ The thing excepted from the general category is ‘He.’ But God knows best.”

The man of learning instantly professed himself a disciple, and composed a panegyric on Jelāl.

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